Challenges in Raising Sheep & Goats Together

  • Title: Understanding Key Challenges in Raising Sheep and Goats: Copper Toxicity and Management Differences


Raising sheep and goats together can be a rewarding and fulfilling endeavor. However, it’s important to be aware of certain challenges associated with these animals. In this article, we will explore two major issues that farmers and hobbyists encounter: copper toxicity and management differences between sheep and goats.

1. Copper Toxicity:

Copper toxicity is a significant concern when raising sheep and goats. These animals require trace amounts of copper for proper health and development. However, excessive copper intake can lead to toxicity, causing serious health problems and even death.

To prevent copper toxicity, it is crucial to manage the animals’ copper intake carefully. This can be achieved by providing mineral blocks or feed that are specifically formulated for sheep and goats, ensuring that the copper levels are within acceptable limits. Regular monitoring and consultation with a veterinarian can help maintain optimal copper levels.

2. Management Differences:

Apart from copper toxicity, there are notable management differences between sheep and goats that should be taken into account:

a) Shearing: While sheep need to be sheared regularly to control their wool growth, Katahdin sheep are bred for animal events and, therefore, do not require shearing. This makes them a suitable choice for those who prefer not to handle the shearing process.

b) Grazing Preferences: Sheep primarily feed on grass, while goats have a preference for browsing on bushes, trees, and shrubs. If you have both sheep and goats, it is essential to provide an area with a mix of grass and natural vegetation to cater to their distinct grazing needs.

c) Fencing: Goats are known for their ability to climb and jump, so sturdy fencing is necessary to prevent them from escaping. Electric fencing can be an effective solution to keep goats contained. On the other hand, sheep have a tendency to push against fences and can accidentally fall over them. Ensuring solid fencing and regular inspections are essential to avoid such incidents.


Raising sheep and goats requires careful attention to specific challenges such as copper toxicity and management differences. By being aware of these issues and implementing appropriate measures, you can provide a safe and healthy environment for your animals. Remember to consult with experts, such as veterinarians and experienced farmers, to ensure the well-being of your sheep and goats.

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Metro East Farms – Yearly Post

Metro East Farms is a compassionate organization that began in 2012 with the mission of providing meaningful experiences to elderly and handicapped individuals. Initially, we organized day fishing trips for the elderly and handicapped children. As our initiative grew, we expanded our services to include visits to nursing homes, where we bring baby or extremely tame animals to bring joy and farm experiences to the residents.

We are proud to offer these services 100% free of charge to our clients, relying on public donations for support. However, the COVID pandemic has significantly impacted our ability to receive donations and secure volunteers. Additionally, we face challenges in acquiring essential resources such as reclaimed wood, fencing, and sheep-friendly feed due to concerns about copper toxicity in sheep.

To ensure the safety of our participants, we carefully select animals that are suitable for children and seniors. Any surplus animals are sold to maintain feed during the winter, ensuring that all animals have an ample supply of hay, grass, and a supplement called “farmers blend” obtained from Buchietts farm supply in Greenville, IL.

At Metro East Farms, we strive to be inclusive and accommodating. We welcome Muslims and Jewish individuals, offering onsite area for your halal slaughter in a private area on our premises, with water and hanging block and tackel to hoist up. It is important to note that pork is not present on our farm, as we respect the dietary restrictions and preferences of our diverse community.

If you would like to support our cause or make a donation, please contact us at 618-488-6718. We appreciate your kindness and generosity.

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The Mighty Guardians: Great Pyrenees

Title: The Mighty Guardians: Great Pyrenees – The Best Livestock Protectors!

In the world of livestock protection, one breed stands tall and proud – the Great Pyrenees. With their impressive size, thick coats, and exceptional cold weather endurance, these magnificent dogs have proven time and again to be a formidable force against predators. In this blog post, we dilve into why Great Pyrenees are the ultimate guardians of your precious livestock, capable of keeping away coyotes, foxes, and those chicken-stealing raccoons!

1. Size Matters:
Standing at an average height of 27 to 32 inches and weighing between 85 and 120 pounds, Great Pyrenees are among the largest dog breeds. Their imposing size alone acts as a deterrent to potential predators. This formidable presence, coupled with their protective instincts, makes them an ideal choice for safeguarding livestock.

2. Thick Coats and Cold Weather Resilience:
Great Pyrenees boast a magnificent double coat. The dense, weather-resistant outer coat, combined with a soft insulating undercoat, provides excellent protection against harsh climates. These dogs are born to handle cold weather with ease, allowing them to protect your livestock even in frigid conditions.

3. Natural Guardian Instincts:
Great Pyrenees have an innate instinct to protect, which makes them exceptional livestock guardians. Bred for centuries to guard sheep in the Pyrenees Mountains, these dogs have developed a strong sense of responsibility towards their charges. Their watchful nature and acute hearing enable them to detect potential threats from a distance.

4. Coyotes and Foxes Beware:
Great Pyrenees are known for their courage and fearlessness when it comes to confronting predators. With their imposing size and protective instincts, they have the ability to ward off coyotes and foxes, keeping them at bay and preventing livestock losses. Their mere presence alone can act as a deterrent, ensuring the safety of your animals.

5. Chicken-Stealing Raccoons No Match:
Raccoons are notorious for raiding chicken coops and causing havoc among poultry. Great Pyrenees excel at protecting chickens from these crafty thieves. Their strong territorial instincts and vigilance make it difficult for raccoons to approach or harm your feathered friends. With a Great Pyrenees by their side, chicken owners can rest easy knowing their flock is safe.

When it comes to livestock protection, the Great Pyrenees breed shines as an exceptional choice. Their large size, thick coats, cold weather resilience, and natural guardian instincts make them an invaluable asset on any farm or ranch. Whether it’s keeping coyotes and foxes at bay or thwarting chicken-stealing raccoons, these majestic dogs consistently prove their worth as the best livestock protectors. Invest in a Great Pyrenees, and you’ll gain not only a loyal companion but also a steadfast guardian for your cherished animals.

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We Need Action

Vetrenarians taking advantage of disabled and low income customers.

If I woon the lottery or investors in a COOP, I’d be putting some vetrenarians in the unemployment line, read on, I’m pissed!

You know there are a lot of things that burns MY ASS more than anything in this world I mean the one thing that really fries my ass in 90 weight motor oil is when the veterinary system holds you hostageWhen it comes to providing emergency medical care for your little loved one or in most people’s cases they call their fur babies.

It hasn’t been the first time you, me or anybody else has been FORCED to make an agonizing decision. My family and I had done buisness with a vetrenerian in Greenville, IL since 1976, 77 and when the old man used to run it. (Bristow) who unfortunately is just a partner now and we or I could never get a break after that. Shit I even did odd jobs for him but nothing anymore where I could pay a few hundred they would x rays and st the leg and pay $50 for 3 weeks and all done, no more!

You know, you build a trust until their buisness gets big enough then they no longer need to allow them any time what so ever to pay payments every payday until you was done or you put livestock up for collateral per sale 100’s of bales of hay or straw. Shit there is ALWAYS a market for that shit.

A man 30 years ago I TRAINED SEARCH AND RESCUE K9’s. for Tri-State Search & Rescue Inc. Out of Elsah, IL we had major money tied up on our K9’s my Cadavar K9 probably $7K but we’re worth every bit of $30K easy. For some stupid reason someone gave him a ham bone which constipated him so bad and so impacted so bad they wanted to to an emergency surgury wanted Rabies paperwork, freaking out couldn’t find it, (just theaterics) Emerg visit $120, emerg x rays $470, emerg bloodwork $600, surgury $1,500 $$ for this $$ for that , “Well how much do I owe you now”? $500.⁰⁰ so far Mr Ragsdale would you like to to pay that cash, credit or debit,?

Huh? I’m like you need to give me a few minuets, I mean these sons bitches want $2K at once. So I say look this is rediciculis, we ain’t got it, no Way cant I get it today and probably tomorrow either, I say a $30K dog you cant help cause me? Why can’t we do enema and lube the entrails cod liver oil let’s just fuc@king insert lube up and I’ll keep warm compresses as much as possible we stayed up all night take a spoon break some loose, and keep lubing and LUCKELY he broke loose thank God, I cramped so bad managing and rubbing until they broke loose ccompletely, but I’ve learned more from Merik Vet Professional than I ever would from these idiots but since 1976 folks, is 47 years my family has done buisness, I’ve had issues where Bill would be $X.xx and I have $X.xx and I can load up a head or 2 of livestock tomorrow night and come by after the auction and settle up. OH, she says you have to pay in full before services rendered. And I’m like WTF your going to have her until Wendsday anyways, Tes but we collect up to the estimate in case something doesn’t go planned but still eanted to charge $300 or something to spay hey, shit she’s 13, Japanise Chin expectancy is only 14 – 16 what to you mean you need to spay he. Seems like vets put you on the spot and THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!

I’ve herd story after story after story people done the same way but should I be able to win $250 Million, or get a crowd fundme to generate the rrevenue with $65 Mil off the top in high berbearing interest, AND JUST the interest generating enough interest to cover supplies, 3 people 1 shifts, 2 people 1 shift and 1 person at night reception, 3 vet assistance personel 2 shifts and 2 assistance for 3rd shift and, 3 doctors 3 shifts on 2 doctors on the night shift. 1 Janitor per shift, 3 doctors on a 1/ hour shift over the weekend with 1 cover (sleeping on premise) doctor 2 assistants 12/12 1 sleep room on the premise and 3 Janitors 12/12 overlapping everybody gets paid fair building / land maintinance, taxes on its own without touching the primary money but feasaby could take 3% net and never collapse.

The theory is a 100 acre rescue / vetrenary complex. Take in % K9, %Cats %Farm Animals and possibly exotic or tur into a petting zoo or something to help support it. The facility would also have a 20 acre Rainbow Pet Cemetary” for cremation Urns “ONLY” Some ground burial, some Mousoleum type and a large 30 L x 30 W x 20 H building with a mousoleum look with the exception of these have small non see through doors such as a P.O box where if the animal owner chose to move, he/she could simply contact management/Groundskeeper and unlock the door, remove their urn, employee verifies the 1’x1’x1’ crypt is empty and clean, refund Crypt & key Deposit and zero it for another potential customer. The Customer Urn Crypts are accessible 24/7 (Lobby Cameras) You take your fur baby’s urn to 1 of 3 bathroom sized rooms (non denominational decorations with small table, chair and pew to kneel should you want to pray)

WHATS SO IMPORTANT OUT ALL THIS? IM SICK AND TIRED OF VETRENARIANS taking advantage to those on fixed and or disability income. Here’s what the payments in our 24/7 365 vet service structures, yes there has to be tweaks and fixes but just the jist.

1. ANYONE on SOCIAL SECURITY check, NO MORE THAN 3 cats and/or dogs.

2. Farm type animals can not included in program but get livestock rates BUT also can put certain livestock as payment collateral.

3. Those below the poverty level and have 3 dogs and or cats per address / family qualify for the program 100% free, no charge peperiod. Then those at slightly higher pay grade but still considered low income and those people would get let’s say a 50% discounts and bill payment plan, unless a follow up we will call it an “incident” so cat gets hit by car surgury, yadda, yadda $600.⁰⁰ that’s and incident, you will make payments until paid in full unless there was 2 follow ups after surguty those will added to the 1 incident rule one paid off you can have another incident because you fulfilled your payments.

4. Normal regular everyday folk with income under $35,000.⁰⁰ – $44,000.⁰⁰ we will set up a limit, incident or cost limit based on credit balance must before anything else can be added.

5. Anyone above $44,000.⁰⁰ although you STILL get a discount meaning less than surrounding vetrenarians you will be taxed 1.01% towards low income slush fund to keep programs free for the disabled. (ie normal bill Greenville $1,300.00 our fee aprox $788.⁰⁹ + 1.01% = $795.⁹⁵ so it’s not that much to help others and you know what else is great? Disabled (Bond, Madison, Montgomery, Macoupin county residence ) pay NOTHING (up to 3 rule) regardless. Bond / Madison County low income FREE Boosters / Rabies shots Macupin and Montgomery half price same with spay and neutering.

6. ANYONE Basicly if you get a written estimate we will go 26% below that Price and if you fall within income brackets can get a payment plan.

LOOK HERES WHY WE WANT TO BLOW THIS SHIT WIDE OPEN! It can be done with the proper funding, a COOP of investors or Winning the lottery, if you put a 8 figure high interest or managed account figure such as $10 Mil – $25 Mil drawing interest or returns on investments generates enough revenue itself to maintain wages, maintinance, supply and utilities on a 50 – 100 acre compound without digging into reserves including the FIRST pet cemitary in Bond County, IL. This facility would be in BOND County 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year (366 leap year) FREE nutering/spay program, 1x guarenteed Financing on mid / upper income (pay off before can charge again (case by case)) NO EMERGENCY HOURS OPEN 24/7, I’m sure my plan would need tweaking I’m sure but even though propetual motion may not exist right now self sustaining is. As long at you take a large number such as 10 million and bank 80% and invest 20% the formula should provide more than enough to cover employees, supplies, utilities and even benefits and possibly maintain a small FREE petting zoo or petting farm. I am so sick and tired of seeing vetrenarians charge prices that RAPE the customer / victim PISSED me off to decide to say for example remove an eye or put it down, either way it’s going to cost you but us farmers have a solution for that and on the farm is the most chosen, unless your busy hugging oak & maple trees. Now my dad’s K9 “Baby Girl” (RIP) a farmer will simply spend a $2 bullet and take care of it but in the case of K9’s and other Animals we ger to close, attached and treated as a family member.


1. Cares for the animal before the customer.

2. 100% Legit FREE for up to 3 dogs and or cats total per address per family. (don’t try to work the system you will be rejected).

3. 100% FREE NUTERING & SPAYING for fixed and low income.

4. 25% or more LESS than other veterinarian visits including payment plan options.

5. May use livestock, goats, sheep, pigs, Cattle, horses, pony, lamas, Ostrich and even emu’s and farm equipment. You don’t pay we pick (collateral up) you pay it stays with you.

6. Credit/Debit BitCoin, reclaimed building materials and other options available.

IM DEAD ASS SERIOUS some of these Vetrenarians gotta go, Take a dog to Greenville you will pay for this or we won’t do that, few days late waiting on paperwork on a K9 for a 3 year vaccination and charge you for a exam and a 1 year shot FDA even says a few days even a week the 3 year vaccination can still be and would still work with no adverse affects. The fact of the matter is there is more doctors per person ratio vs Animals per veterinarian. Therefore they are going to lube you up and make you scream daddy until your rear end is bloody and your wallet, well they emptied that sons a bitch yea even the credit, debit and ID’s yea they recycled that shit to get every last fraction of every cent.

SHOULD we find a vetrenary clinic who charges a fair price for supplies and services rendered we will inform the public.

1. Lower cost on supplies and services.

2. Provides a wellness protection quartly program (discounted if paid yearly) or even collects premiums as insurance and covers anything pertaining to that animal to its policy cap.

3. Will allow livestock and or farm machinery to be used as collateral of a bill. (50% of animals worth) animal needing medical and using a horse worth $800.⁰⁰ would be $400.⁰⁰ counted towards collateral something simular. Power of attorney papers are 5 min to draw up Noterize it and don’t pay you go take their shit, I was a bail bondsman, Fugitive Recovery and reposessions don’t pay you? I’ll go take their shit.

4. Loyalty Program – 2% Account cash Back program. $2000.⁰⁰ Bill = $20.⁰⁰ On your next visit or just keep letting it build.

The fact of the matter I’ve seen people put an animal down because they didn’t have a thousand they only had $500.⁰⁰ it happened to me, DON’T BE A DICK and say if they couldn’t afford a vet they shouldn’t have an animal, BULLSHIT, situations change, peeoples lives change, I inherited a $1,500.⁰⁰-$2,300.⁰⁰ Japimise Chin that belonged to my mother she passed, dad kept her was going to have the mass removed but airways are narrow on Chins and because they said COULD BE complications and might loose her he ddidn’t, THIS is part of my sisters fault he had dementia they (sisters) could have explained, he died 3 months after being diagnosed with Lukemia. When he went to hospice she came to live with us forever, we knew he wasn’t coming home.

About 3 months later emergency visit, x rays that was $406.⁰⁰ USD said cancer was working in the lungs now but we could do surgury but recommend getting her spayed yadda yadda bring me a estimate of $1,500+ why even offer spaying, removing the mass on what obviously is stage 4 broke open and bleeding. I’m just furious not so much as credit to any Joe blow but Shit 1976 with Doc Bristow and knowing I have 23 , 26 head of goat and sheep you figured and I said I could go up Tuesday take a couple head and come by and pay them off Wendsday Evening.

“I’m sorry we have to have payment upfront” that’s some cold ass bullshit right there.

“Baby Girl” maybe you found your way across that rainbow Bridge to see your mama and daddy wished I could have done more but uunfortunately, I didnt have the money to save you and your daddy letting it go so long not sure I could have. Love you ” Baby Girl”


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Anti-Scammer COOP Network

Small Farmers Coop 1st Draft

This Coop is for farmers / Breeders that require depositsts and buyers unsure of the source. Our objective is to #1. Stop Scammers Dead In Their Tracks. #2. Collect and hold the buyers deposit until transaction is completed and should buyer / seller conflicts then Metro East Farms would become the arbitrator in a binding hearing.

How it works?

1. Farmer fills out paperwork to become a member of the Coop and requires photo holding paper uo with info we”ll ask you at the time to do or live video chat with one of our staff.

2. We verify all your information FULL name, DOB, phones, address own/rent, years at location etc. (this info is kept on offline files NEVER online files.

3. $10 simple non refundable background checks (thefts, burglaries, scams, fraud & Forgury) are the ONLY things we are looking for, again all info is private.

4. Once you are verified your Farm, name, and general location, ytpical livestock, farm products, equipment or livestock Protection K9’s (LDG) I don’t like calling them Livestock GuardcDogs. They do a valuable job, therefore in my eyes deserve a better classification as a SAR dog being a trainer. So basicly you start out 5 ☆☆☆☆☆

5. When your name is added to the safe list and we have verified you, transactions can be handled in two ways. Put down their required deposit keep all emails, screenshots anything in writing should one party not follow through to which either party can choose arbitration a binding hearing determining who is at fault and who keeps or receives money back. (Arbritration each person pays $5 fee so it’s even not bought, this is for arbritares time and Arbitration will be by video conference and recorded for records)

6. Decision is final, of you did NOT submit your evidence your SOL.


Begining of your

sale / purchase

1. Contact and talk to the seller verify he/she is on our list, if so continue if not proceed at your own risk.

2. Seller will talk with you, show videos or pictures, description, total amount of money and deposit required NOW YOU AND SELLER MUST AGREE on a deal and whether seller will receive the deposit or if buyer pays the deposit to Metro East Farms to be placed in holdings or escrow until which date comes that the transaction is to be completed. *if we are holding deposit and 72 hours lapses and buyer isn’t deseased he/she needs to find a way to contact us within the 72 hours with a no bullshit reason like I said dead, jail or admitted in hospital arbitrators ruling is final.

3. Whomever defaults in the agreement looses, simple as that. Sellers, make sure the agreement is written out in FULL, email to buyer to sign in front of a notary and email / deliver to seller you can pay them the deposit or as mentioned we will hold until which the deal is completed and notified by both parties anf funds will be released instantly minus any transaction fees by the money transfer platform.

4. PAY ATTENTION! During EVERY transaction savev ALL emails, screenshots, photos everything. Should it need to gi go to arbitration you need this or take a chance on loosing your case.

5. OUR WARRENTY: We collect information from any small farm wishing to be METRO verified so as personal as it seems its enough to verify animals and livestock, location, duration of residence a background check looking for criminal history theft, theft by deceit, forgury, burglary, breaking and entering, frauds and scams (As a retired Missouri bail bondsman / Fugitive Recovery Agent and automotive / Boat Reposession I still have sources)

6. We can accept your deposit using our secure payment platforms to accept checks, cash, credit/debit, PayPal, Cashapp, Square, Google Pay, Venmo, Zettle, Crypto Currencies & Bitcoin AND you can pay your deposit using zip, once registered on our link and aproved) you can get a virtual credit/debit say the depossit in 100.⁰⁰ you pay us the deposit. Zip takes 25% from your bank and you make the other equel 3 payments every 2 weeks until paid in full. Zip pays us in full so your deposit is paid in full by zip , so Zip collects the remaining 3 payments from you iyou can still pick up your item after yo pay the balance to the seller. The deposit balance is between you and Zip.

7. Finals – using the 5 star ☆☆☆☆☆ system 1 sucks, 5 Awesome and no less than 10 words your experience.

WHAT wonderful be tolerated are baseless claims not backed by evidence. Emails complete with headers and untouched routing, Unaltered screenshots and or photos (my software knows if it’s been tampered with), video chats make sure you let them know your recording, or any other tangible evedence. You spread 💩on a buyer or seller with no backing evidence it’s going to cause you major issues.

1 Strike your out, as a COOP member, we hold you to a higher standard and our website will post on its website MMembers not in good standing.

Questions. Feel free to contact t us.





















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55 Gallon or 39 – 55 Gallon Plastic Barrels

Ww are currently looking for 55 Gallon or 30 – 55 gallon plastic barrels with lids and retainer rings on them, Not interested in barrels with strong chemical rings might be interested in white totes with frames but must have a valve that works. contact us on our office number 618-488-6718 or Business cell via text 618-999=6661or on our whatsapp +16185674552.

You may call between the hours of 8 am and 7 pm

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Just A Little Pissed Off

When you deal with a guy buying hay and straw for our non profit we call and giving FREE advertising we make a call for pick up and informs us hay is now $65.⁰⁰ per bale on hay and $15.⁰⁰ for straw which is crazy a 30% increase blaming it on twine and diesel fuel which off road/farm diesel .20 cents less than regular diesel and checking on rolls of twine makes him a liar 13.4% increase on fuel and no change on twine made in the US and according to Jones Twine & Net Wrap has not changed in 6 months only imported has fluctuated.

A 30% increase isn’t justify the increase so we are no longer advertising Kamworth farms orher than the mention in this article.

Anyone wanting super free advertising willing to give us a cut as a non for profit in Illinois and we need orchard or g rass hay, some weeds are fine as long as there are no cucklburrs which will kill goats.


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Rhode Island Red Rooster

I am looking for an adult full blooded Rhode Island Red Rooster near New Douglas, IL area for my12 girls that looks like the picture. As a bed I told a friend I could sex baby chicks a week old. He took my bet and said pick out 12 Girls and I’ll pay for them but if any of them are roosters, just one you pay double what he paid at the store. Me, I say its a BET!! About 7 months later I am stuck with the task of finding damn Rhode Island Red Rooster and yes I won the bet 12 out of 12 are in fact hens with 12 eggs a day but one is broody so I’m going to let her set and I have an old rooster out here named Foghorn Leghorn but he’s a mutt. I’ll pay up to $20.00 for a healthy rhode Island Red Rooster. older juvenile to a 2 year old is acceptable.

Whatsapp number +16185674552 or office number 618-488-6718 or email:

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No longer supporting Big Pond Livestock Manager

We as a small farm mainly non for profit have been HUGE advocates of Big Pond Livestock Managment Software online. BEFORE adds werent to intrusive fairly small using since about 2019 we atarted adding animals like i said ads were fairly small but versitility we loved it and so many different species.

So we decided to pay at that time a small fee. HOWEVER a few times the system goes down gets multable errors and the only copy is on this system NO WAY TO DOWNLOAD a file as a back up, BUT COMES back up after a couplecdays HOWEVER NO REPLIES TO EMAILS. So definatly disapointed but again we purchase add free and soldured on BUT AGAIN 2 more database errors didnt even recognize our login credentials. AGAIN EMAILS NOT ANSWERED but within 36 hours were back up running.

2022 NOW we have these HUGE AZZ IN YOUR FACE ADDS TOP AND BOTTOM OF EVERY DAMN PAGE. and now 18.00 Canadian ($13.97) so we decided we will be removing ads from our website i can we will no longer pay a raise again for services that WELL, pretty much scare us to death in loosing vital birth, medical including breeding, birthing and death data. And well this year the cost, the risk and big ass half page ads at the top and bottom of EVERY SINGLE PAGE.

WE are currently working with developers which will contain the same information, calculators and such then some.It will allow for downloading your data in multable formats. Access to the system in 100% FREE TO USE, NO ADS! $9.00 USD donations will give you only ONE benifit and that is downloading ALL your data up to once a week (4x per month) for a period of 12 months to the date of your $9.00 USD donation.

AS LONG as you download twice a month you will NEVER loose your data. Not a donator and the system goes down? Due to daily back ups you can have access to your data up to the time of the daily back up curl event (clock reset back up event) so you see donating allows downloading data as soon as you finish a major update.

We have our servers PAID in advance for 5 years, as long as we have them invoice us on end of year 4 by contract our rates for our domain hosting will NEVER increase EVER so there will NEVER be a reason to increase FEES or add BULSHIT ADS. YES we are extremely disapointed and we done full page print outs to protect our data. PLEASE COPY ALL YOUR DATA WEB PAGE PRINTOUTS and force them to DELETE YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION.

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A Big Thank You

  1. A big thank you to Amy Britton & family for donating the 4 bags of dog food. After purchasing 3 Great Pyrenees for her and sister and discussing taking animals to visit seniors at nursing homes and disabled and autistic kids birthday parties absolutely FREE of charge to clients and even though this was done before our long talk goes to prove what kind of people Amy and her family are.

Thank you Amy Britton Family GC Illinois

We have been in service since 2009 taking seniors fishing and later about 2012 incorporated in 2012 as a Illinois Non for Profit (Team Fat Boyz inc) currently in incorporation name change approval.

Folks when we talk about donations it can be cash, feed, hat, straw, building supplies like tin, lumber, fence post, old or new fence and electric fence post and wire, Romex wire, labor on the farm, volunteers at events at nursing homes and autistic/disabled party events, Bitcoin, Dogecoin it doesnt have to be cash.

We want to have a big yard sale in the fall or some other type of fund raiser, if you think you can help contact us at and again thank you the Amy Britton Family.

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